Curse

The Abbott · Jan 29, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by MegaMouse

Truly KOFBD doesn't impress me as it is far too easy to get. There are a few titles that do impress me though: 1 Grandmaster Cartographer for any chapter. That one shows your dedication to getting into every spot out there and finding everything.

Most people with KoaBD have done grandmasters to get it... like me. I did grandmaster cartographer for each chapter and protecter for each chapter

Ouchie · Jan 30, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

I thought this was suposed to happen in January? Anyone know if it is still happening?

Shmanka · Jan 30, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Ouchie

I thought this was suposed to happen in January? Anyone know if it is still happening?

From my knowledge this is not the only message board they are considering opinions on. I do not truly post anywhere else, thus I have no idea what the other websites have issues debating. I would expect a "near future" response, I am also certain that they are more focused on skill balance and HA environment changes at the moment as well.

MarcinJ13 · Jan 30, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

I just found this topic, so here is my opinion:

1) Spliting Skill Hunter is good. It might be a challenge, because of the cores elite skills. But I like it anyway.

2) Max title track emotes: Again that would be awesome. It doesn't have to be like Hero track, but something that would make pople visible (slightly glowing armor, wings, halo, etc)

3) I really like the idea that titles are now giving you a bit of advantage (Lightbringer or Wisdom). More needed !

4) I'd like to see an option to combine titles (kind of matrix of checkboxes) that would result in complex titles. Example Someone with Lightbringer r3, Drunkard r1 and All 3 Grandmaster Cartographer titles when checking those boxes would get "Slightly Tipsy, Glowing Globetroter" (of course more serious).

5) I don't agree with people that says titles don't matter. They say it, because they didn't spend hours achieving them. The more dificult, the more proud I am to have such title.

6) Finally, I would like to see other means to display titles (not just text under the character). Things like armor ornaments, special cape trims, or even ability to paint those areas of armor that are normally not-paintable would be great.

Those are MY PERSONAL ideas, and no one have to agree or disagree with them.

Vagoz Baz · Jan 30, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

I also have all 291 elites and would be very disappointed if it will be split.

I have spent ours of walking/searching and capping to gain this titel and I am proud every time I see it or some-one congrats me with it.
I think that it is not really a good and fantastic idea to split the titel in favour of the Kind of Big Deal titel because I think that people who want to have the Kind of Big Deal titel will not going to capp, because it is just far more easier to gain the titel by exploring and to max out the missions.
So why split up, to favour the Big Deal titel if people are not likely to use it.
For me it is a callenge to gain this further with this titel because it can't be maxed and with every new campaign it will give me and others the opportunity to get everything out of my character and to explore and see much of the world.

I also don't see why you will split it because players don't have all campaigns. You allways made celebrations on a new campaing which couldn't be held in the old campaign(s) so people would need to buy that new campaign to join that celebration. You even ignored Factions with Wintersday. So why now split this titel in favour of those who don't have a campaign.
When people don't buy a campaign then it is there own choice and they also decide to not be able to get the other elite. So in my opinion makes no sense splitting the titel just because people don't have all campaigns. It would injure players, who got all campaings and who spend ours of capping and walking to get the titel, more then it would favour players with only 1 or 2 campaings.

Dougal Kronik · Jan 30, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

For all those with 291 Elites capped, this title track would continue but just be referred to your International Skill Hunter title track.

The individual continents would have their own Skill Hunter title tracks that can be maxed out within one continent.

Why would there be any opposition to this? Those with KoaBD would be that much closer to PKM.

Tifa shadowheart · Feb 01, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

I've just started the hunt for all the elites, and after reading over this idea my initial thoughts were, do it do it do it.

Alleji · Feb 01, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Why would there be any opposition to this? Those with KoaBD would be that much closer to PKM.

KoABD means nothing and splitting skill hunter will make PKM mean as much as pre-nightfall KoABD:

3 protector + 3 cartographer + 3 skill hunter + 1 "difficult" title.

Shmanka · Feb 01, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by Alleji

KoABD means nothing and splitting skill hunter will make PKM mean as much as pre-nightfall KoABD:

3 protector + 3 cartographer + 3 skill hunter + 1 "difficult" title.

Compared to just having:
3 Protector + 3 Cartographer + 1 Skill hunter +3 "difficult"

In all honesty though I see no problem in this, infact it does not make sense to have the skill titles merged in the first place to begin with. Everything else was campaign specific so why this? Was it just easier to do and overlooked?

Mystic- · Feb 01, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Just make another level to the KoABD title track and split the skill hunter titles, then it's all good.

The Abbott · Feb 01, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Mystic-

Just make another level to the KoABD title track and split the skill hunter titles, then it's all good.

there is one or more although I don't know their names,,, I have Koabd and the progress bar is around 1/5 complete.. so that means maybe another 4 titles on the bar.... maybe someone with People Know Me can inform us?

lennymon · Feb 01, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

Compared to just having:
3 Protector + 3 Cartographer + 1 Skill hunter +3 "difficult"

In all honesty though I see no problem in this, infact it does not make sense to have the skill titles merged in the first place to begin with. Everything else was campaign specific so why this? Was it just easier to do and overlooked?

the point is just that, the '+1 skill hunter' part of your equation cannot be acchieved, and it gets under alot of people's collars. Even if they made the skill hunter track -temporarily max attainable- I'd personally be happy.

X Ninja Sasuke X · Feb 02, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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I also have all 291 elites and would be very disappointed if it will be split.

I have spent ours of walking/searching and capping to gain this titel and I am proud every time I see it or some-one congrats me with it.
I think that it is not really a good and fantastic idea to split the titel in favour of the Kind of Big Deal titel because I think that people who want to have the Kind of Big Deal titel will not going to capp, because it is just far more easier to gain the titel by exploring and to max out the missions.
So why split up, to favour the Big Deal titel if people are not likely to use it.
For me it is a callenge to gain this further with this titel because it can't be maxed and with every new campaign it will give me and others the opportunity to get everything out of my character and to explore and see much of the world.

I also don't see why you will split it because players don't have all campaigns. You allways made celebrations on a new campaing which couldn't be held in the old campaign(s) so people would need to buy that new campaign to join that celebration. You even ignored Factions with Wintersday. So why now split this titel in favour of those who don't have a campaign.
When people don't buy a campaign then it is there own choice and they also decide to not be able to get the other elite. So in my opinion makes no sense splitting the titel just because people don't have all campaigns. It would injure players, who got all campaings and who spend ours of capping and walking to get the titel, more then it would favour players with only 1 or 2 campaings.

I too have been working like crazy, spending lots of time capping elite skills. The only difference is I'm in strong favor of splitting the title. Here's why:

1) It is more fair to people who only have 1 campaign. A level 1 skill hunter title won't be to impressive, but to a new player who worked hard to get all the caps in the only campaign they own, it would give them something they could be proud of.

2) It doesn't take away from the prestige of your title or hard work. If anything the international title, the one that would show that you maxed it out across all available campaigns, would be just as equal in importance as the current title you have now. Both would mean that you have all the caps. The only difference is now you would be a lot closer to KOABD or PKM.

3) It seems like every other title is split into campaign, why should this one be any different. For instance imagine how mad people would be if they had all 3 grand master cartographer titles, then ANET decided to just make it 1 big title like the skill hunter... they would start rioting! They worked hard for their 3 titles and they deserve the right to show it off. As someone who has been capping like crazy to max out this title soon hopefully, I too want to be recognized for my hard work. I think I deserve it and I think anyone else who has this title maxed deserves it just as much.

I do have a question for ANET though... they announced that this update would take place sometime in January... well its Febraury and I still haven't seen the changes yet. I know they're probably busy with the HA modifications and everything, but hopefully they will update this asap. With over 80% of the people voting in support of the changes, it is clear who's oppinion the majority belongs to. Hopefully Guild Wars will listen to the masses, as it is us who compose more of their profits, then the very few minority that would whine about it if they didn't get their way.

Fallen Hunter · Feb 03, 2007, 02:31 AM // 02:31

I very much like this idea. I just have one question, which I believe has been asked before but I didn't see an answer to it:

How do core elites factor into this
Will they count for all three titles? I'm capping only elonian elites at the moment in anticipation for this change, but I have also capped quite a few core elites which are in elona. I want to know if these will count towards elonian skill hunter...

Relambrien · Feb 03, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by Fallen Hunter

I very much like this idea. I just have one question, which I believe has been asked before but I didn't see an answer to it:

How do core elites factor into this
Will they count for all three titles? I'm capping only elonian elites at the moment in anticipation for this change, but I have also capped quite a few core elites which are in elona. I want to know if these will count towards elonian skill hunter...

This is pure speculation, but I'm guessing they'll only count for International Skill Hunter, since the skills aren't really Elonian. Besides, if you capped it then in Elona, how would you get the titles for Tyria and Cantha?

Of course, you could always have it so that it counts for wherever you've capped it...meaning cap it three times (one in each continent) to get credit...that's also a possibility.

Fallen Hunter · Feb 03, 2007, 05:38 AM // 05:38

I was thinking more along the lines that it would count for all three titles at once, but that could be true as well.

MasterRiven · Feb 05, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

I'm all in favor of changing the title, HOWEVER, I think that something everyone has overlooked (though I haven't taken the time to read all the replies) is that in Nightfall there are Assassin and Ritualist captures. Can Nightfall-only characters even get these classes as secondaries?

If yes then fine, but if NO, then maybe some revision needs to be done there, too.

xcutioner · Feb 05, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by MasterRiven

in Nightfall there are Assassin and Ritualist captures. Can Nightfall-only characters even get these classes as secondaries?

Good question~! Perhaps the skill titles could be class based instead of campaign based... Mesmer Novice, Teacher, Guru, etc.
Probably what will happen is that you only have to cap core classes and the 2 campaign classes in their respective campaign. The other elites would count towards the international title.

Shmanka · Feb 05, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by MasterRiven

I'm all in favor of changing the title, HOWEVER, I think that something everyone has overlooked (though I haven't taken the time to read all the replies) is that in Nightfall there are Assassin and Ritualist captures. Can Nightfall-only characters even get these classes as secondaries?

If yes then fine, but if NO, then maybe some revision needs to be done there, too.

Yes you can Profession Changer in the Battle Isles... wait nvm. Your right, we're screwed.
lol this title is so horrible. I think that perhaps they can be.. cut? Honestly can someone check to see if they can unlock the secondary Assasin and Ritualist professions through without owning Factions?

Drop of Fear · Feb 05, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43

so are these changes coming anytime soon? we voted months ago for this...